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Tom Fretwell's avatar

Great write up. I am completely put off by the debt here though. 1.71 B debt to 104m trailing fcf. The future of the company, there ability to return cash to shareholders is going to be very dependent on interest rates.

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Matt Newell's avatar

My pretty uninformed 2 cents, based mostly off the contents of this post: A dangerous build-up of debt funding unreasonable share repurchases and large acquisitions with minimal strategic value ($15m in synergies is not sufficient for a $600m acquisition) screams financial mismanagement, empire-building, and overall poor leadership.

My experience with reasonably cheap looking companies with heavy debt loads has not been positive. In my eyes, this is not cheap enough to justify the risk as a cigar butt, and the brands and finances are not strong enough to justify it being a quality pick (a 5 year payback period is not good).

I like to pick investments where I'm likely to do very well, whether the market recognises I'm right anytime soon or not. I don't think that's the case here. The underlying business is not fast-growing, the book value is negative, the balance sheet risk is substantial. If the market wants to keep it <10x earnings for the next decade, your return will be fairly dismal.

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